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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby suds-n-blood » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:24 am

acarrion@lavaquick.com wrote:ood point of view
it take this into consideration
What do you think of this option?

Pos. 1 Feeder
Manufacturer: Kannegiesser
Type: GEM-S II 35-01+2-4/4-1/2/3
Year: 10 / 2003
Mach.No.: 103442
Working width: 3500 mm

Pos. 2 Ironer
Manufacturer: Kannegiesser
Type: HPM 12-35-3
Year: 10 / 2003
Mach.-No.: 103444
Working width: 3500 mm
Rolls: 3 St. flexible Mulde
Diameter: 1200 mm
Heating: Dampf

Pos. 3 Folder
Manufacturer: Kannegiesser
Type: SFM-35-1/2/3-3-KR3+K-SR1L
Year: 10 / 2003
Mach.-No.: 103446
Working width: 3500 mm
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OK, now this processing system is better for large piece items as the GEM feeder is designed for automatically feeding sheets, table tops, etc. Same for the SFM folder, it does both the lateral (primary folds) and crossfolds on the large items.
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby detlev bronk » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:00 pm

dont have one. heard of two with the gear box problem. a couple of chest replacements and welding on chests. how fast do you get major kannegiesser replacement parts in peru ?
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby detlev bronk » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:16 pm

whats the jensen option
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby acarrion@lavaquick.com » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:32 pm

My Other Option, tha could be the first, is

USED
Jensen Iron, 3 rolls, 75 cm. and

NEW
1 Jenfold Classic S de JENSEN - A3 - 2
PL en 1 carril y 3 PT en 1 carril

NEW
1 Jenstack Max modelo I de JENSEN, controlada por el PLC
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby suds-n-blood » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:20 pm

what is the width on the Jensen 3-roll ? and possibly the model number as well to allow a direct technical comparison to the utility consumptions between the two manufacturers.

Also, the other possibilities include both a feeder and a folder.

There are times that one would look at a used ironer (if in good shape) and have a newer feeder / folder that would allow typically better quality and reliability overall.
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby detlev bronk » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:13 am

pretty sure the 4m hpm small piece ironer is from a laundry in poland that operates 24/7.
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby suds-n-blood » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:52 am

acarrion@lavaquick.com wrote:My Other Option, tha could be the first, is

USED
Jensen Iron, 3 rolls, 75 cm. and
NEW
1 Jenfold Classic S de JENSEN - A3 - 2
PL en 1 carril y 3 PT en 1 carril
NEW
1 Jenstack Max modelo I de JENSEN, controlada por el PLC
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How are you doing on your quest for a new ironer line for your facility?
Did you take the kannegiesser line; the Jensen line; or so far nothing at all??
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby thepanu » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:08 am

I think from all of the steam flexible chest ironers all have needed welding. Oldest were from 2005 and need for welding came about in something like 5 years or so. I would wager that chests in the ironers in question have already been welded.

Jensen -95 I would leave at the store. Unless extensively refurbished.

Also, is gas not an option? Obviously not many used ones available but that's the route I would take, invest in a new gas ironer and acquire used feeding and folding to bring down the total investment.
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby TUNNELTECH » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:47 pm

You can have new chests placed into the used Ironer. Buy them that way or not at all. If I was buying an ironer used, I would go with a non flex chest Ironer. They are simple and easy to refurbish. Feeders I would go only with a good rebuilt one or new. The Jensen Classic is a good folder. I would really research the parts availability for your area on each one. If it requires servicing who can help you? How knowledgeable are your mechanics on each one? The flex chests are replaceable (the chest itself) I would do that rather than weld one. I would weld then replace when I could. Jensen states in their manual a ten thousand hour life on the Ironer. 24/7 = Just over a year. I found that odd. We have been running ours so far for 6 years on the oldest one. We have not damaged a chest yet. Knocking on wood :lol:
Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Iron Line: Jensen vs Kannegiesser

Postby thepanu » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:47 am

Yeah, they are really cautious when it comes to running hours. Basically everything is counted with running something like 2000 hours per year.
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